Always listen to the teaching and doctrine of the one doing the miracles first and second if you are able check out the fruit (lifestyle) of the one doing miracles. Amen, Marilyn..this is just something I have been becoming more aware of in recent times. After ministry, the leg grew out. Like maybe God wants a *clear* separation of His ways from the enemys ways? Trending. 4 Then said Paul, John truly baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying to the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. What I took away from this whole deal was the value of praying with people on the street about their problems after witnessing to them. Great stuff! And yes the first video was full of evidence that we are dealing with a genuine and anointed man of God. Watch this video about the people of God revealing the glory of God and you too will do the works of Jesus: http://youtu.be/03hWzOCzZ9k. I praise God for the healing that God does through him and yet my heart is saddened by the lack of healing for saints suffering in the Church. it deeply grieves me to see people getting so cynical that they Seymour had approached a man with a wooden leg and asked, What did you come here for? The man replied, I want you to pray for my leg. `in His hand is a sharp sickle.`. He gave specific examples of sharing the Gospel and how the power of God has manifested throughout his time in ministry," a spokesman for his legal team said. believe this authentic move of the Holy Spirit is only recent..? This was a huge pitfall I saw with the Toronto Blessing when I was there. Squashers of joy, and those who make light when someone says theyve been healed by Gods power, would rather remind the church about the warning that many will heal in His Name and do works in His Name and expect entrance into heaven, and Jesus will say, Depart, I never knew you. Keep standing strong in the Lord and preaching and demonstrating the Truth in these last days. Amen., jda016 Jonathon, at one time B.Johnson of Bethel, denied the deity of Christ Jesus our Lord thereby teaching a false christ, a different Jesus. If we start treating them as playthings and as idols, then we are as those trying to carry and play with fire with bare hands, and I have been a witness of this. Jda016, you are absolutely right on in your discernment above..it is witchcraft. Torben with his wife Lene on her birthday ( Source : facebook ) Boy! He stands for repentance, holiness and reformation of hyper-grace and hyper-charismania. Who says that someones new birth experience has to be like a drive up fast food place? It might seem like a small thing but faith is built in little steps. He chose twelve disciples to preach the Kingdom of God, not to create a sect. My friends, that is not discernment. My initial reaction of the first video is that it is a hoax. Mom Chooses Life on an Abortionist's Table, Finally Meets Her Grateful Son 2 Decades Later and the Tears Flow, 'The Chosen' Creators Announce Season 3 Finale to Premiere in Theaters Nationwide - The Reaction Is Stunning, Viral Video: Mall Security Guard Tells Man Wearing 'Jesus Saves' T-Shirt 'Take It Off Or Leave', 'All Glory to GOD!' Jesus had no thought of creating an organization or formal group around Himself, nor did he teach disciples to form any such organized group. In fact, without them a brief video (above) where Torben discusses the amazing things that I believed that I had been healed by God. A very dangerous cynicism takes hold at that point. Multitudes of people have written to me expressing this. Jda 016, Share on telegram. Dont forget Old testament where the axe head raised up out of the water, and poisoned waters were made drinkable. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.. Torben Kjr Sndergaard, bedre kendt som Torben Sndergaard (fdt 9. august 1976 [2] ), er en dansk radikal kristen forkynder fra Brande i Danmark. . To Torben, I would say that if what you are doing is of the Lord, you dont need to go around tooting your own horn about it. I do find it interesting how everyone attacks those trying to bring people into the knowledge of the truth. The single most encouraging thing is right at the end when the healers admit that they feel nothing, meaning they are operating strictly by faith and obedience. David repentance is exactly what Torben preaches. Ruining the faith of the faithful is most important to him. Look at all the healings in the NT. For what? Jesus said Greater things would we do after He went to be with His father. reacted quite badly. Titus 3:5 and many more But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils. But I guess thats what powerless religion us all about. It high time we all return to the child like faith and trust we had before we got burned by all that sorcery. Not just be exposing the False. walked right on camera. (Luke 7: 14) Step 5. God is everywhereeven in the news. He told CBN News the documentary ruined his reputation in Denmark. Sndergaard is the founder of The Last Reformation, a worldwide movement that seeks to return Christianity to the Book of Acts. 23:25). Last point, going back to the Pharisees, it seems to me that Jesus said that sins against the Son of Man would be forgiven but that blasphemy against the Holy Spirit wouldnt be. Person screams, rolls around on the floor etc, and demon. We cannot just be focused on what is wrong. So it really upsets me to hear all the accusations people are It is just as deadly Others fall into the You need to get saved from your unbelief and your incredulity! He never flattered people in power, such as Nicodemus and Joseph of Arimathea, enticing them to join His group and help Him If He had compromised with the Pharisees, He could probably have obtained worldly influence easily. He received no word about his application until a letter from the Department of Homeland Security summoned him to a meeting in Orlando, Florida on June 30th. There is another guy in the pool at 2:34 min who is convulsing in the water this is Kundalini electricity. July 6, 2022. A bad tree CAN NOT bear good fruit nor can a good tree bear bad fruit. They want hope, need hope and the only hope is found in God! In the NT, Jesus is dealing with 1 demoniac at a time.in one instance (the herd of pigs incident) there were 2 demoniacs. He is NOT MR. Wierdsville! Many Christians will fall into deception because of this speaking in tongues phenomenon and the Spirit of Fire that accompanies speaking in tongues. ALL sin is ROOTED IN UNBELIEF. Many months later, I was made aware that an O/S visitor with healing ministry was in the area I prayed about this and was convicted that God would heal me that evening. Or, would he just rebuke the illness, and be on to the next person? Not only that but it has Torbens website all over it which is loaded with written and video material to check out. And even the weaker among us serve a purpose in testing the character of the stronger..oh my, yes, how we treat our weaker members tells a tale, thats for sure. Jesus said, Let your light shine It is very glorifying to God to see His manifold wisdom displayed in manifold ways through His many people. Im not saying they are or arent, Im just saying the video evidence isnt enough since all the healings are subjective in that there is no obvious malady present, only a reported internal problem by the person supposedly healed. And, do you understand why that might be a bad thing to do? Update from Friends of Torben. You will receive an email and you will need to confirm your subscription. Andsuchweresome of you:butye are washed,butye are sanctified,butye are justifiedinthe nameof the LordJesus,andbythe Spiritof ourGod. Judge Yon Alberdi, an appointee of Obama Attorney General Eric Holder, ruled Sndergaard did not meet the requirements for asylum. Outline of Biblical Usage, https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g908/kjv/tr/0-1/. Too PRE-OCCUPIED with a devil that has been falsely portrayed as having EQUAL POWER AND AUTHORITY as the TRINITY..which includes the Holy Spirit that is dwelling within EVERY BORN AGAIN person. You wrote: Paul was using both water and Spirit so many times in his epistles. Have you forgotten that Paul also said, For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. (1 Corinthians 1:17). Does anyone know whats happened to Randall Lowrey? She told me after my helper prayed for her she began to sit in the toilet for the next two weeks and urinate that tumor out of her body. He told the story that immediately after he was born again, he read the scripture saying to lay hands on the sick and they shall recover. Arrested NOT. John the Baptists baptism in water was a baptism of repentance, but when Jesus Came, you are to be spiritually baptised into the One and only Baptism of Jesus Christ. (Acts 10:38 NASB), Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever. If it is truly the work of the Holy Spirit, then why wouldnt those healed recognize this and repent and declare Jesus as Lord? Or when did he say Johns Baptism will pass away? I guess I was one of those people Andrew is referring too. Romans 6-8 In the Name of Jesus, I command this leg to grow out. visions and miracles should be absolutely EXPECTED as a Too many of us have gone too far the other way as a result of the charismania hype and false revivals. Thats not biblical. What you said is correct. Jesus will outshine all when His servants take their proper place in the kingdom. God answered that heart cry in the following manner. He was not acting like the King of the Jews. God always has and always will place things in the midst of His miracles that cause the insincere and the sceptic to be scandalized over and can be interpreted as either genuine or a scam. weird, eerie, uncanny mean mysteriously strange or fantastic. Marilyn. The world will always recognize Jesus when He is given right of way in His people. If I refused to rejoice, I would have no ask myself some serious questions about who I serve. spread the word! We warn our children not to do things with their safety in mind but we dont call in fearmongering! Romans 8:8 teaches us that those in the flesh cannot please God. (Acts 19:4) Then said Paul,John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.. Paul was always on guard for the church and admonishing and warning constantly with the help of the Holy Spirit, and with good reason. I hear you Lightning Storm. it is very doubtful that we have true Bible Christianity at all. I recall witnessing two of the greatest miracles where Seymour was greatly used by God. USURPING the role of the Holy Spirit is very dangerous for ones health and welfare.check the scriptures. HOW NOT TO GAIN ENTRANCE THROUGH HEAVENS GATES? Its not encouraged by most North American Churches in fact they often teach the opposite so how else is he supposed to show people that, yes, it can and does work like this. Are you married? We need to go out and preach the gospel, heal the sick, cast out demons and be led by the Holy Spirit as we read there. The doctor in charge was an atheist and so outraged by it all that he destroyed the medical files and even the record of the man being admitted. Amen meanwhile press on saints. happening. It is always interesting to me how the people who want to use the scriptures to support their OPINIONS, KNOW SO LITTLE ABOUT THE SCRIPTURES. 12..mainly that people try to put their brothers and sisters into a box, a box made in their own image. Secondly I remember well how Derek Prince when he held healing and deliverance meetings would always begin by praying for one or two folk with legs of uneven length. Can we not stick to Gods word as the ultimate authority? Sean, son your spirit is so not in tune with Jesus Hearts cry. For us to think we can do anything apart from God, means we have cut ourselves off from Him. The manna that came down from heaven.miraculously. God is everywhereeven in the news. Andrew J Horton, you said I didnt see anything weird or suspect or new age or whatever in any of these YouTube videos . So then, after the Lord had spoken to them, He was received up into heaven, and sat down at the right hand of God. 1) to fear, be afraid For forgiveness of sin? c) to reverence, venerate, to treat with deference or reverential obedience. It is good to testify, in simplicity, and as the Lord leads when it is seemly and glorifying to Him, but it is not for us to try and make it into something. It is a flow of the Living Waters of the Spirit Himself when our SELF/FLESH BOWS DOWN AND SURRENDERS. Peter spoke in Acts 2:38 Then Peter said to them: Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the Name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit . Its time to do an article on this guy. If a person believes I do not have to always obey The Lord Jesus , in their heart they also believe I do have to listen to Jesus . Seymour replied, Im just upset because you have the wooden leg on. Try it you will like it!!! Is God feeling ambivalent about those healings when He led Korban to record them? We have all learned those past lessons of gullibility and stupidity in embracing that charismatic sorcery. 2.Where did Jesus say that? It could be miracles, signs, and wonders. Amen. I can be a `big picture,` person & I so appreciate those who labour in daily life with family, difficulties, work etc & try to help where I can & pray, for we are all on this journey together. Those that would criticize any such testing should take a step back and realize there is nothing unbiblical about testing such spirits as long as it is done with the right intent. Repent (change the inner man to meet Gods will) and do the works you did previously [when first you knew the Lord], or else I will visit you and remove your lampstand from its place, unless you change your mind and repent. Pharisees. Judge Yon Alberdi, an appointee of Obama Attorney General Eric Holder, ruled Sndergaard did not meet the requirements for asylum. They left for the U.S. with only what they could carry in eight suitcases. 2) to cause astonishment and awe, be held in awe This I did. But there are some who do have shortened legs and corresponding back problems. There have been times that you have fallen prey to allowing your zeal to post a story that was later found out to be untrue or not of the Lord. Perhaps you should read the whole passage up to verse 12. This sectarianism which Jesus condemned, is the spirit which dominated the Roman Church and was inherited by the Protestants. He knows the grief of a wounded spirit. After all, Paul was not sinless like Jesus. It boils down to: YOU DONT KNOW HOW GOD OPERATES AND YOU NEVER WILL. Trenton D. Adams said: Lets see a man with no leg, and see that grow out., A healing like that is documented to have taken place in the Azusa street revival in 1908, Excerpt taken from Azusa Street, They Told Me Their Stories His Pioneer School videos elucidate the full gospel including repentance, water baptism, Spirit baptism, and evangelism with healing, casting out demons, and signs and wonders. By whose authority do you come hear and tell us that those people were not healed by Jesus? Just a glimpse of God`s great work. For years he has been an ardent supporter of the Toronto manifestations movement. 1,664 talking about this. And the time has come to start in that direction. Friends are expressing dismay that a Danish man who works tirelessly spreading the gospel around the world has been arrested in America over charges of smuggling arms from Mexico into America. The elitist claims to have personal relationships with God and regularly receive divine visions. Foras many of you ashave been baptizedintoChristhave put onChrist. All I can say is that if Paul twice said he feared for the church of Corinth, then it shouId be ok for us to feel similar concern as well when it is warranted. This shows the administrative authority of the empowered Son of Man. We are gentiles and we believe solely by faith and we do not need to be baptized in water. Love you all in the LordLightning Storm, you sure do keep me on my toes. I heard of a series of miraculous healings on someone involved in a bad car accident and God seemed to be one step ahead of the doctors. Act 28:27 I pray that each persons eyes will be opened to Truly see Gods Kingdom, their ears opened so they can hear Holy Spirit and that their heart of stone will be taken out and they receive a new & soft heart of flesh, whereon Gods Law can be written. I loved the videos! WHO does the SANCTIFYING? The Fiery Presence led them by night. signs/wonders (using the gifts given us) will follow and subsequently souls saved for the Kingdom. THEN they INQUIRED OF THE LORD to see why their men were slaughtered. Ample scriptures indicate that they will appear as ministers of the gospel, not ministers of the enemy. (Isaiah 60:1-4 KJV) `in His right hand He held the 7 sealed book.`, This shows the reconciliative advocacy of the exalted Son of Man. Only those who were damned to eternal perdition were baptized (dunked UNDER/IN) the water. The lawsuit states the belief that Sndergaard's arrest by a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement(ICE) officerwas based on "anonymous tips" that "originated from (the) Defendant's misinformation.". Exd 4:6 KJV And the LORD said furthermore unto him, Put now thine hand into thy bosom. This is how His Kingdom comes in the earth! It is very important for the Pentecostal/Charismatic/Apostolic and Prophetic/Hebrew Roots Movement to baptize people in water: These pastors believe they are part of the Apostolic succession (the same as the Catholic Church) and todays so called Christian church is supposed to be part of the false doctrine of the lost tribes of Israel and we apparently need to realize this and be part of the Last Reformation that the Vatican is raising so as to enter and take over Jerusalem with their one world religion. JeffM, I believe you misintrepeted my comment about obeying God. I do not consider any of the miracles Jesus did in any way wierd. Torben has been in jail since his arrest when authorities shackled him hand and foot like a terrorist. Paul had an awful time with those type of people as we can see in Gal and Rom and also the author of Hebrews. We continue on and learn until the day we exit to Eternity. After watching the second video, I can see the value of praying with people after talking to them about Jesus. I just watched the original video after reading and watching the second video. They did not rejoice at the healings at all. But they sought God in prayer and fasting and rose up believing. acting through Torben, to see if it is from God. The answer to that question is I most certainly try when I feel the Lord speaking to me. A friend of mine then asked her if she wanted to become a Christian having seen the power of God at work God is good to heal the unsaved to show who He is. In fact, doesnt it say that we most certainly shouldnt do that, and then call it of God? Bill Johnson can not save anyone, only God can. Where do you get your identity? Leg lengthening WAS AND IS GODS IDEA NOT THE WORLDS IDEA! You can be ashamed of that name if you want but I will gladly bear the reproach of that wonderful name any day! Dit is jammer dat jy nie vanuit my, Seeing that you are in South Africa, and you and, Hullo Tom. Bill Johnson, and all these false prophets, teachers, evangelists, Somebody asked about Bill Johnson He is the current Mayor of WIERDSVILLE or at least Deputy Mayor! In fact, OUR MANNA OUGHT TO BE FRESH EVERY MORNING as we progress in our relationship and understanding of Jesus Christ and His Kingdom. Dear Barry .here is a quote from your post. The pitfall that the Lord was gracious to show me is a danger that needs to be avoided, its not fear mongering or inappropriate to shine a light on the enemys snares, it is love and concern, not to mention a duty. Rather, it is the Holy Spirit authenticating the message I gave to you about Jesus Christ. After commenting you have 15 minutes to EDIT your comment. What is wrong with people? barryrschmidt@gmail.com, You know friends I totally get and appreciate both sides of the questioning miracles argument. No I dont regret calling it a sad reaction. The things of God are too precious to be treated as common. 357 talking about this. The Call of Jesus, by Torben Sondergaard, is like an easy to understand instruction manual pulled from Scripture to help us effectively live the life to which Jesus has called us. I just read 1 Kings 18. This is the understanding that GOD gave me, it is not of myself because I didnt have a clue. And to go forward into the `true,` is to `know Christ more,` as the Apostle Paul & Roger, here, have encouraged us to do. God doesnt like strange fire being mixed with His; its very distasteful. See also John 1:12-13. Does anyone have any information regarding the heresies of this area so that I may warn my friend? Never! 2.getting water baptized(immersed) on my faith in the name of Jesus Gal 3:27 Read what Jesus Christ had to say (RIGHT FROM HIS OWN LIPS) about it here: Mar 9:38 KJV And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils IN THY NAME, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us. Its not just a matter of someone professing correct doctrine with their lips, but an indwelling of the Holy Spirit such that, when it acts through us, people are brought to repentance, recognizing Jesus as Lord. What I find very disappointing is that when some of us want to engage in an honest discussion about this story, we are met with name calling and ridicule. We begged my unbelieving husband to let us pray for him. Torben is a preacher, teacher, and author who was born in 1976 in Herning, Denmark. I received a comment from a Discerning the World reader who said: I have just found this page recently and I find it very interesting. 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