I only know my own lifes experiences, fwiw, too many LEOs cant hit chit no matter what the tool, and Im an honorary. In a way, the GLOCK trigger is similar to a double action revolver trigger. 3 your support hand may not be available. Im still getting comfortable with carrying, and Ill take an unchambered gun over one at home in the safe any day. Hell you pour sand down MY ass crack and I'll jam up and and fail to extract Ive carried different glocks with a round chambered in iwb/owb holsters and never had a problem with it. 5 Reasons Not to Carry a Gun with An Empty Chamber Same here. Since its a bookmark and not a save, it will go there and update to the latest info. This means that if the hammer is carried down on a live round, the firing pin will still not be able to touch the primer, even though the hammer is sitting right down on the pin. I dont condemn those who carry a striker with one in the chamber. The anti-GLOCK crowd and they are nothing if not noisy also raised the objection that since a striker-fired pistol is so easy to discharge (a simple pull of a relatively light trigger) then its inherently dangerous to have those guns in a home with small children. That connected to the trigger, which only dropped out of the way when the trigger was fully pressed. I never carried a gun before my G27. It will catch on and you will be a rock star! Some folks in the comments section raised objections, as they are often wont to do. I have kids, but they have been taught that if it can go bang assume it will if the trigger is touched. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Theres simply no point in carrying an unloaded gun. about carrying or keeping a gun with a round in the chamber. So you are in reality arguing that if someone makes a *negligent mistake*, the Glock is more likely to discharge than another firearm. As if every act of negligence is a deliberate act. Even though they dont have safety, Glocks are not prone to negligent discharge and are completely safe to carry when done properly. My Glock 23 is fully loaded, and no problems at all, even with the 3.5 connector in it that lightens the trigger pull a bit. If I have to carry a compact, its a DA only with no safety or one with the safety off. Glock Pockets - Pistols in Your Pocket | Officer In the 1930's, W.E. . Only, dumb guys wouldnt understand that. Well saving room for some ice cream after dinner is a bit higher on my list than any damn LDL or HDL mumbo jumbo. There is no way to put a round in the chamber without leaving the striker cocked, and there is no safety. . As stated above, Glocks are safe. This also means that if the firing pin somehow gets enough inertia to hit the primer, from some other source than the hammer (whatever that source might be), and then the round in front of the pin suddenly ceases motion, the firing pin will continue forward into the round anyway, no matter what the hammer, trigger, barrel, or etc, do. Note, the sentry safe does have a security vulerablity that can be mitigated by covering a hole with stainless steel tape. I carry a 5 shot .357 magnum revolver a good deal of the time. Just saying. I have handguns that have a magazine safety I leave the mag out a 1/2 inch in the lock box and the mag cant be rammed home while in the box(like if it were dropped). Try it. Actually, I only did that for about ten minutes before retreating to a men's room, unchambering the round, and putting the gun back in its holster with a full mag but empty chamber. That was a few years ago now. Well, technically, you could also just not drop them I suppose. I am sure you will tell us that since you are a stable genius it will never happen to you. you would do well to keep in mind that some people dont carry with a round in the chamber not because theyre so afraid or lack of training but because simply of where they live and the laws that exist there if they did they would be constantly administratively chambering and unchambering a round throughout their day while doing so in their vehicle Me personally I carry a snap cap in the chamber, so if some lucky bastard grabs my gun and shoots hes about to be dead. Its part of being human. True dat. Guns in my bigger safe are in condition 3 (AR rifles and defensive shotguns), except for my SAA revolvers are empty as I dont consider them as a defensive weapon (my hunting rifles and shotguns are empty too), mainly because both have 8 1/2 barrels and were used for silhouette shooting when I was younger. The good folks at Iver Johnson (related in name only to the company that exists today) developed a lifting bar that sat between the hammer and the primer of the cartridge. Older single action revolvers or those still manufactured without a hammer block/transfer bar are theoretically more prone to discharge back in the day when you ride a horse as the drop from that position could allow the pistol to rotate muzzle up when it lands. The first Glock safety that you will interact with is the trigger safety, which takes the form of a spring-loaded lever located in the center of the trigger. People who carry them are so rare that I felt like it wasnt worth mentioning, and Im probably still right. While I agree its better to have a round in the chamber, I dont, not at the moment. It is completely safe if you take the proper precautions. If gravity provides the inertia instead of the firearm, then the problem wont arise unless the gun is moving towards the ground, and then stops. It was a girl participating in a shooting contest. Must not be working on it very hard. If you are so scared of a striker fired trigger, then why not get a hammer fired gun? 2 you may forget to chamber P.T. I always wanted to see in a western someone who knew he was about to get into a gunfight slip that 6th round into his Colt SAA. All I get is replies that they are working on it. Um. All that said, training, knowledge of your firearms design/function, and practice go a long way to make any firearm safe to carry with a round chambered though some designs are better for a particular purpose. So yes, its completely safe. Glocks are for professional that carry OWB at 3 o'clock where it is possible to see All the way around the holster While holstering the gun. Some of the biggest mistakes happen when training at sex. Its like arguing Android is better than iOS. carrying or keeping a gun with a round in the chamber, Standard Manufacturings New S333 Revolver Fires Two .22 WMR Rounds at a Time, District of Columbia AG Subpoenas NRA Foundation Financial Records, Gov. I also felt the same way. Is really shouldnt be that hard. Many competition shooters boast about having it done to their race gun. Personally, I have several, ranging from BP revolvers to modern SA and DA revolvers & semi-auto pistols, to rifles and shotguns. In war or a defensive situation, that will get you killed. I am the same way, my kids randomly jump, hug or accidentally collide with me on a regular basis. Momentum and all. Its funny how a pimp like VLAD TEPES is accepted and sometimes glorified for his rhetoric of cut and paste (fake news) values but a person who simply chooses a different way of carrying is villified and demonized by those who scream for personal freedom. Jordan Buck is an outdoor writer, a man of faith, and a family man. Human brains arent too sure of themselves, and if an expected result does not occur, our brain responds by doing the action again, just to make sure it did it the first time. For those of you that don't know, "Israeli Carry" is the practice carrying a pistol without a round in the chamber. Kids are grown, hoping dad doesnt ever need to move in, not the reverse lol, and I have em where I need em to be and they are ready when I am. The 223/5.56 is the most common centerfire rifle cartridge in the US. Folks, a GLOCK (or any other striker-fired pistol) is perfectly safe with a little intelligence combined with a bit of assiduity. In that book, they suggest that the proper way to carry a semi . I'd recommend a Hard Kydex holster like a comp-tac infidel. Ok revolvers. It is also the choice of many Canadian cops services. Keep your finger off of it and your should be good to go. I submit extremely unlikely. lol 15 in the clip one in the pipe. What you are overlooking is the odds. When all else fails eat a mucho big bowl of butter beans and a hand full of BBs that should put a whole new meaning to Kiss my a$$. These are: 1. I am thinking G2S, my ankle sometimes gets chilly, but, Im happy with my PA-63 In 918, and I have a CZ, in 918, that has the best SA trigger Ive ever felt, since the Smith S.S. Model 66, .357 which was accurized, and tweaked by a smith, that was flat out dangerous, hair wasnt the word. I thing Mossad guys are well trained, just saying. On the other hand, most other striker-fired pistols count on the recoil spring to cock the striker. I have pocket carried for years, mostly using a clip such as a clip draw on my SIG 938, hammer down, safety on, round chambered. No kids at home anymore so no worry there. So lets just say its a personal choice and your way isnt better than mine, but I will never accidently shoot my leg or foot. In my 3-screw, yes. Not carrying a round in the chamber does indeed provide you a 100% chance of not having the gun go off in the holster. An insignificant cretin crying for attention in a world that has left him far, far behind. The Glock 26 Gen 4 weighs approximately 25 ounces with a loaded magazine. Modern revolvers with some sort of disconnect can be carried full up. Smith & Wesson EQUALIZER Review: Crafted For Carry If you are so uncomfortable with a Glock as a fully loaded and chambered self defense gun, why do you own one? Maybe. Both have pros and cons the secret is you must be well versed to bringing your gun up to the level of lethal quickly. 7 Great Holsters for Glocks :: Guns.com Now, what about those darn useless novelty CCH badges? I have trained chambering on the draw and while it is less effective I am still way ahead of the guy who doesnt carry. Beyond being "The Original" Glock, which won the company favor with the Austrians then the world, the Glock G17 is arguably the most popular Glock pistol model on the planet.. While numbers vary, reacting to something - anything - takes a . Well you can either use it as a gun or as a brickI like mine to be carried like a gun. She now after many painful operations will be a partial cripple for the rest of her life. They are all single-action guns even if the marketing guys play games saying they are 1.5-action or whatever. I just grabbed a shirt from the laundry pile. Most 1911s come with a half cock safety, but again, you would have to ensure it was engaged properly and its prone to breakage. And, it actually impeded officers ability to hit a target. This is a particularly great idea. Colt change the SAA!? One or two chances to mess up with an empty chamber, but thousands (or hundreds of thousands) of chances to ventilate your own leg while taking a piss. Perhaps why they werent interested in this modification, even though the investor designed it to be visually unobtrusive and to require minimal modifications to the original design. Said every one of the people who later came to suffer from glock leg. Just go to there web site, or go to your gun store for more information.
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