How did you find this? stylesheet.rel = "stylesheet"; He also provided monthly Grantland Rice Sportlights as part of Paramount newsreels from 1925 to 1954. It believe in this instance it means flat referring to his flat face. Meanwhile the Independent newspaper (11 October 2007) endorsed this spirit of sportsmanship (and your father in particular): He won the 2009 Pulitzer Prize for his biography American Lion: Andrew Jackson in the White House, wrote a celebrated biography of Thomas Jefferson and was chosen by the Bush family to write George H.W. window.Mobvious.device_type = 'mobile'; From Grantland Rice oldned Uncategorized August 29, 2022 1 Minute "When One Great Scorer comes to write against your name, He marks not that you won or lost, but how you played the game." All suggestions welcome. Mr. Kelly most likely has a framed motto published by The Buzza Co., who also published under Craftacres the name of their building in Minneapolis, from 1925. Interesting to see who the World Cup heroes are see home page for my 3 World Cup Sportsmanship heroes. That is not an ideological point. Right Tackle Competition scuttled through and blocked the kick. } In todays dollars, thats about $1.5 million. Gwen thank you so much for this information. [CDATA[ Its not how you win or lose, but how you play the game, is a misquote from the poem.! Next. . stylesheet.type = "text/css"; 1843-1912. These are only aliases. //]]> This was part of a chapter titled The Negro Race, and Rice spends most of it praising black athletes of his day, particularly Louis. Let every games end find you still upon that battle line [11], His sense of honor can be seen in his own actions. Many thanks. Did he plagiarize or was the idea his own. Then he opened his own insurance business. They wept to think bull-throated Bill would sock the line no more. } else { But he took in a good spirit and was always known as Chato. M.K. He became even better known after his columns were nationally syndicated beginning in 1930, and became known as the "Dean of American Sports Writers". Ray Calabrese May 10, 2020 May 1, 2020 inspiration, love, poem. The plot thickens. "[7] Rice coached the 1908 Vanderbilt baseball team. Notre Dame upset Army the next day, holding on for a 12-6 win with a goal-line stand. Will be scored to your credit, my son. Sorry Thats the reason for my mistake. B. Downie. It just gets more intriguing all the time. It is powerful, isnt it? Recipients of the Fred RussellGrantland Rice Sportswriting Scholarship include author and humorist Roy Blount, Jr.; Skip Bayless of Fox Sports[18] and Andrew Maraniss. [2] He is interred at Woodlawn Cemetery in the Bronx, New York City. In 1936 in Berlin, he saw Owens deliver a quadruple-gold blow to Adolf Hitlers Aryan superiority propaganda. Its hard to imagine anyone in this racket more universally beloved, too. Thanks Geoff. "https://":"http://";i+=f?g:k;i+=j;i+=h;c(i)}if(!e.ue_inline){if(a.loadUEFull){a.loadUEFull()}else{b()}}a.uels=c;e.ue=a})(window,document); What pictures he paints with words and all layered with wisdom too. "https:" : "http:") + As such, it can be served by no apologies or defenses, Fountain wrote, and deserves damnation less than it deserves understanding.. For verification, the complete address is http://www.library.vanderbilt.edu/speccol/research/guides/bios.shtml. Is the fact that you stood the test. Would you know of the full source where and when it was first published etc.? You can use our stories in a structured programme. I know nothing of the origin of this poem. It is in an old glass case maybe 5 X 5 inches. Wow Steve this is truly intriguing. Thanks again & very best wishes to Mac Pitt and all at Uni Richmond from a Dubliner in London. var url; On the rare occasion a white man wasnt the subject, the subject was liable to inspire ghastly doses of bigotry. And news writers. But through the night there shines the light, You remember the poem from your childhood education with the Christian Brothers. For example, the bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest a celebrated Confederate general, and a slave trader, and the first Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan that sits in the Tennessee State Capitol in Nashville is the subject right now of intense debate between lawmakers. "Application": "GoodreadsMonolith", With eyes ablaze he sprinted where the laureled highway led- Rice was a great sportswriter who coined the phrase The Four Horsemen of Notre Dame and is also credited with the name The Crimson Tide for the University of Alabama football team. Many thanks, Paul. This quote was on a huge poster on the wall of the mess building. So the search goes on. I found these beautiful words in my parents house in Dublin, Ireland. I purchased it from an estate sale. Please keep adding comments. At Vanderbilt, a four-year scholarship named for Rice and former colleague and fellow Vanderbilt alumnus Fred Russell is awarded each year to an incoming first-year student who intends to pursue a career in sportswriting. The tumult dies, the cheer is hushed, the stands are bare, the park is still. Warm wishes to you from London. He actually took a $20-a-week pay cut to take a job with the New York Evening Mail in 1910. He made significantly more money than virtually everyone he covered. You will be inspired! Its not whether you win or lose but how you place the blame (in John Peers 1001 Logical Laws . Subscribe to The Athletic for in-depth coverage of your favorite players, teams, leagues and clubs. He knows history. And thats where Grantland Rice, in todays terms, gets complicated. Please do explore our many other stories you can search by sport or by country or insert a topic or theme like poem in the search engine box on the site and youll find some nice poems about smiling etc. Our family has a metal plaque from the Shapleigh Hardware Co. with this quote, no author referenced. This poem hung over the entrance to our elementary schools gym. Dad regularly uses this quote. Henry Grantland Rice was born in 1880 in Murfreesboro, Tenn., and opted for journalism after graduating from Vanderbilt in 1901 and playing for the Vanderbilt baseball and football teams. Grantland Rice, Alumunus Football, Only the Brave and Other Poems (1941) seems to be credited a lot however, my old graphic letters version says Newbolt (would this be Cardinal Newbolt)? function q(c, r) { Perhaps he might also have some stories of sportsmanship (Ill bet he has) which I would love to share with others. For when the one great scorer comes But how we played the game. I sense happy memories. Rices career was interrupted to serve in World War I at 37 years old. The plot thickens. In dramatic lore they are known as Famine, Pestilence, Destruction and Death. What of their honesty, the way in which they represented their countries and enhanced the great values of their sport? Pass it on. In dramatic lore they are known as famine, pestilence, destruction and death. The illustrating department created superb designs which were reverent to the poetry, and Buzza printed on quality paper using quality inks. We have several suggestions and variations of the poem. Also feel free to use the poster it may inspire others! JB Downie is possibly the author. I found out from my mother that her father, E.S. Here is a different, yet beautiful, overlapping intriguing version of the poem written in 1925 by JB Downie in Minneapolis, USA, kindly sent into us by Peggy Legrande. googletag.pubads().setTargeting("sid", "osid.66a657b45f57e162fd8222433e96937e"); First I was looking for some back ground info on it. It had a huge impact on me and I have talked about it with other classmates and teammates. init: function() { Please do keep sending us comments on any of our stories. Joe Rexrode is a senior staff writer for The Athletic covering all things Nashville and some things outside Nashville. He writes not that you won or lost It also has some inpirational writing on the back. Russell is a huge part of Nashville sports history, and hes on the right side of history. Here is a poem given to Dutch Tennis Star Tom Okker by his mother on his first trip to Australia in 1964. whatever the game and whatever the odds the stands are bare, the park is still. The name Newbolt is below the poem and the illustrator is at bottom left by Alan Tabor of Manchester. These are all beliefs many readers of the 1950s did not share. At least he didnt go word for word. Grantland Rices poem was published in 1941. I Never Played the Game Howard Cosell with Peter Bonventre 10. page: {requestId: "PTPHS3MESDKWDQ4ZK9G7", meaningful: "interactive"} Ill post the original Celtic letters version in spread the moment section in a few days. He became interested in the sport in 1909 while covering the Southern Amateur at the Nashville Golf Club. Cartoon by Grantland Rice & Jay Norwood "Ding" Darling in the New York Tribune of September 28, 1919 Rice was an advocate for the emerging game of golf in the United States. The winning is all up to you Please accept my condolences on the death of Brother Eamonn Chato ODonnell. By The Way, If you enter the word : POEM into the search engine in the top right hand corner (with the magnifying glass icon), you will find 3 different posts/articles about For when the one great scorer poem, and, more interestingly, you will find some even more intriguing comments suggesting the source of this poem. With very best wishes ~ Paul. This is great!!!! Paul, One of the great sports poems of all time by one of the greatest sports writers. . if (a[a9]) return; My parents too had a small metal plaque on the wall with those famous words thereon circa 1925, Well George. Ah Nancy this is beautiful. He must have been hard as nails, a fantastic player as well as as a gentle and kind father to read you, or quote you this beautiful verse. In dramatic lore . On the baseball team, he was captain in 1901.[4][5]. And the courage to fight till youve won, This exact version was framed and hung on the wall in my parents bedroom. The Grantland Rice Bowl, a college bowl game named in his honor, was played from 1964 to 1977. window.csa("Events")("setEntity", { Brother Eamonn Chato ODonnell, who was the brother who did the most to establish rugby and the rugby spirit in the school, died recently, and the last two lines of this poem were cited at his memorial service by a colleague Brother Thomas ODonnell as indicative of how he lived his life. ~ Paul. googletag.pubads().setTargeting("surface", "mw"); Being a descendant of slave owners is not a crime. - Grantland Rice (August 16, 1948) The original version of this poem was published in 1910 by The Tennessean Company. Henry Grantland "Granny" Rice (November 1, 1880 July 13, 1954) was an early 20th-century American sportswriter known for his elegant prose. Richard Beale previously suggested the poem, Alumnus Football, first appeared in an article written by Grantland Rice for the Nashville Tennessean in 1908 to describe a Vanderbilt alumnus football game. I have heard of Buzzo, though Jacob B Downie is new to me. With your permission Ill add it to this post plus post it on our facebook page etc. I am delighted with your information. Tell a friend. Jim McCarthy, captained Munster and Ireland and played with the Lions. Meanwhile, another helpful reader, Mr. Robert Kelley kindly added this comment: May I enter the discussion on who wrote those final lines of Rices epic poem. The piece hung first in my grandmothers house in Colgate, Oklahoma when Dad was growing up. [CDATA[ And more than all, when you are thrown or tumbled with a crack, Christmas 1927 With the Grantland Rice name in this thread, I thought I would throw this curveball (hahahahaha )Lee Mero married Kathryn Rice in 1920!!!! To put Grantland Rices career in Grantland Rice terms, he doped it out with the best of them and gave the world the magical, majestic musings of a wordsmith who clattered away on his contraption amid the smoky din of a packed press box. Thanks again. I ask because I came across 5 pages of hand typed poetry edited by a Douglas Delong, Aug. 10, 1943. Your mother was a lady with a great strength of spirit, I imagine. } 11 comments since 2009 separate post/article http://tinyurl.com/k7z3ow4 Paul, Amazing Robert. node.parentNode.insertBefore(gads, node); if (window.csa) { - Grantland Rice "For when the One Great Scorer comes to mark against your name, He writes not that you won or lost, but how you played the game!" - Grantland Rice Comments 2 William Cyrus Howell June 24, 2022 at 5:31 am All wars are planned by old men in ante rooms apart, Who plan for greater armament and mark the battle chart, Someone is sure to lose. The paper behind appears to be in pristine condition. Link >> https://www.pinterest.com/pin/487092515924974343/, Welcome to the conversation. I purchased it from an estate sale. googletag.pubads().enableAsyncRendering(); gads.async = true; The debate also continues elsewhere on this site as we occassionally post this verse to see if we get any different comments see July 2009 and also in Jan 2010 . He writes - not that you won or lost - But HOW you played the Game. And when they stop you with a thud or halt you with a crack, [4] On the football team, he lettered in the year of 1899 as an end and averaged two injuries a year. Bill hit the line and ran the ends like some mad bull amuck. For when the One Great Scorer comes to write against your name He writes not tat you won or lost But how you played the game. Thank you. So were the policemen and the shopkeepers and the farmers and the factory owners. Invite us to tell stories in your school or club. Not long ago I questioned the author of the poem as I had a copy that my father gave me on my bedroom wall that I felt predated the life of the American credited with it. Keep coming back Game Called. And this is how Meacham explained, in a segment this week on MSNBC, his standard for distinguishing those who should and shouldnt be held aloft: Was the person or the institution being memorialized ultimately devoted to the pursuit of a more perfect union? if(cookiePair[0] === name) { Im curious about the possible Irish origin. if (sourcesToHideBuyFeatures[i] == source) Meaner men are not capable of measuring him., Wonderful, Russell said of Rice. But did you beat the spread? 35 likes All Members Who Liked This Quote Nicholas 438 books thanks again. She was one of 40 of Temples TSU Tigerbelles who became Olympians, a tradition as proud as any in the history of sports in the state. The full poem is here: But Left Guard Envy broke it up and stood him on his ear. Henry Grantland Rice (November 1, 1880 - July 13, 1954) was an early 20th-century American sportswriter known for his elegant prose. _Q: [] On June 8, 2011, ESPN's Bill Simmons launched a sports and popular culture website titled Grantland, a name intended to honor Rice's legacy. By post-WWI the company along with other fine publishing houses were framing poems, also referred to as poetry from the heart and now Buzza mottoes. What is the pinterest image the link didnt work. Thank you John for your beautiful story. That is the clear, historically based view of it.. Thank you Karen for this intriguing insight. I have a Buzza Motto "Playing The Game" poem credited to J. Does this raise question as to Grantland Rice being the originator? grantland rice poems how you played the game 15+12+7. I have searched high and low to find who was the graphic artist and who was the author. I have an original of the poem given to me by my Mother in 1949 that I cherish. var useSSL = "https:" == document.location.protocol; In the 1920s at the height of their business, The Buzza Co. produced their finest work. As usual, he had astounding access. var isRetina = window.devicePixelRatio >= 2; // retina display This beautiful piece of art & poetry was framed and hung proudly in Peggys parents home. He was, relative to his peers and to much of society at the time, a progressive. Thx again for your powerful words: The poem lives on. var sourcesToHideBuyFeatures = ["ebfg_gr", "ebfg_fb", "ebfg_fbm", "ebfg_tw", the final cheer and jeer have passed. (Top photo: Hulton Archive / Getty Images). And what a mighty name too. Am amazed that the NYT ran it. } the bugle rolled the reveille. Thank you again for your very thoughtful message. Thanks. //]]>. Many thanks. In 1907, Rice saw what he would call the greatest thrill he ever witnessed in his years of watching sports during the SewaneeVanderbilt football game: the catch by Vanderbilt center Stein Stone, on a double-pass play then thrown near the end zone by Bob Blake to set up the touchdown run by Honus Craig that beat Sewanee at the very end for the SIAA championship. This verse was at the head of a Red Smith sports column in the New York TIMES in the 1960s-70s era when the lowly NY Giants ALMOST upset the mighty Baltimore Colts with Johnny Unitas, The Colts were a twenty-point favorite with the odds-makers, but the final score came up something like 22 to 19 Colts, so Red Smith was praising the Giants. His prose was flowing and passionate as in this description of Notre Dame's defeat of Army in 1924: "Outlined against a blue-gray October sky the Four Horsemen rode again. Circa 1925 eh as an earlier comment suggested 1930s. When husky William took the ball beneath his brawny arm Dont sit there whining-hustle up and keep on coming back; Keep coming back with all youve got, without an alibi, Thank you so much for sending this in. I have also got some feedback from Linkedin Sports discussion which I wil try and dig out and post here soon. Rice was an advocate for the emerging game of golf in the United States. Keep Coming Back I just wrote without thinking. No one may dare accuse, [CDATA[ Bill had the speed-Bill had the weight-Bill never bucked in vain; }); That determines for you what degree of success (Cardenal Newman) Many thanks for your clarification. Rice chronicled a bigger moment for sports and society, the 1936 Olympics in Berlin. }); Youll find the road is long and rough, with soft spots far apart, Thank you once again. 31 likes All Members Who Liked This Quote Scott 463 books view quotes Their real names are Stuhldreher, Miller, Crowley and Layden. I should have said that The founder was: EDMUND RICE. Your grandfather sounded like a lovely man. Who wrote these words? He got a one-on-one interview with Owens about his gold in the long jump and Hitlers decision to leave the premises rather than congratulate him. As regard Chato, it can mean many things in South American Spanish. He also wrote in The Tumult and the Shouting that Bedford Forrest was one of the great cavalry men, and a hero to his grandfather, who fought for the Confederacy. That you played a clean game, and you fought a good fight, Well, I hope this may be interesting for you. He preached this the whole time we were at campToo bad most professional athletes dont have a clue what it means,,, It was not his first golf event, but it was the one that seemed to pull him toward the game.[8]. I am 80 years old and have a framed wall poem by Jacob B. 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It is gold leaf with a picture of two dueling horses with men in coats of armor. I love his writing about The Four Horsemen of Notre Dame. this beautiful verse has generated some great comments: I often wondered about the line. //]]> I wish you well and thank you for your comment. Best wishes, Paul. For it isnt the score, and it isnt the prize "//securepubads.g.doubleclick.net/tag/js/gpt.js"; How far away the goal posts are that called us to the play. They were quite loyal to each other, Carolyn said of Temple, who passed away in 2016 at age 89, and her father, who passed away in 2003 at age 96. Afterwards he obtained a series of prestigious jobs with major newspapers in the northeastern United States. Let young and old read Read more Not That You Won or Lost but Rice Im pretty sure wasnt part of that., Theres no record that he was. Money everywhere they turn from morning to the night 1920. I found a photo of one that looks just like mine online via another seller. Thought the world my walk across your spine Though Rice's ode to sportsmanship is over 100 years old, it's still relevant today (maybe even more so) as stories of bad behavior by people who .

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