This Mod. I recently purchased a used 12 ga. semi-auto "Luigi Francia (not Franchi) Brescia" per engraving on receiver and barrel. Grips Compatible with Llama XV 22RF XA IIIA 32 380 ACP (Reproduction Work) Made & Shipped from Thailand. After the Spanish civil war theGABILONDO companymoved its facilities to Vitoria, Spain where they continued to produced handguns under the Llama trade name. m 1 itTlii n f iu?lii i jiii4?itt 11 li tiTlut 11 < i M liiiili t iTi tin It j^^ii 11111' I tt 11111*'! We find a lot of Llamas from the 30's that have their proof marks removed and I feel like this was done in the refinishing. . The LLAMA-GABILONDO Y CIA VIORIA(ESPANA) a was used on current production firearms before LLama itself went out of buisness The last production of LLAMA handguns was by Bersa out of Argentina. Beristain cancelled the contract even though he won. : :ri i ! No. The photograph on the left is a close up of the Llama logo that is found on both of the wood grips on this pistol. For some reason this first model produced later was designated Model IV. t i'^' 11 till t l^lll 11 ll nTi f r 11 In iTl 111! 1111 > 'i^lll >', fni'Tf-' ' , ' .f1.!!.!,. 1111! 332 7.65 mm. At some point after this some guns in need of work were sent to Astra to be refinished, later bought and sold by Interarms which was a CIA cover company. The one directly below is the third series which is wider in the grip area using a modified frame and slide but the same magazine. (asterisk) and then the number '2' as in 'D.2'. An interesting note is that Spain took longer to establish national proofing laws and standards for firearms then some of the other important firearms producing nations, notably Austria, Belgium, France, Germany and Great Britain. III.-This was a 9 mm. Unless one of the Llamas has this mark or you have the bring back papers you cannot tell for sure if it was used in Germany during the war or not. If so, any suggestions as to where I might pick up a couple. 508, 11.! span stylecolor: 000000Do you want to learn the art of throwing knives? Reason: punctuation 28th March 2005, 14:31 #2 cls12vg30 New Member Join Date 24th January 2005 Location Raleigh, NC Posts 7 Posts liked by others 0 After going It is still in production. The Omni was not a success, primarily because the sophistication of the piece led to production costs, and a retail price, that far exceeded many of its more conventional rivals. This proof looks like a flaming bomb because it is the firing proof of the gun. After WW II the serial # reads with barrel to the left (except for serial numbers on the fore strap thru 1957). The trigger guard is shaped for a better two-hand hold, and the sights are fixed. The 1914 Ruby in 7.65 - 9 shot with checkered wood grips as made for the French in WWI. Mod. The Llama Comanche is a state-of-art revolver produced in Spain by the Gabilondo company. Short version of the Mod. : :ri i ! All Rights Reserved. models of 1903, 1906, 1910, and 1922. This pistol is still in production. Mod. Model 82. Both are identical to the Llama Mod. This is an importers stamp that is now required to be placed on firearms that have entered the U.S. After the late 1980's. Langenhan Zella-Mehlis, Germany No. This is a little known model used by the Spanish Policein .380 if it had a model number it is unknown by anyone. Some details concerning the various Llama models are as given below. X-A.-This is identical to Mod. This is the label on the box for this gun. s U i'*i* V k I ! My understanding is that at this time Gabilondo had 5 employees. It was an imitation of Colt Mod. Llama pistols built before 1936 will have slide markings that reads GABILONDO Y CIA. IX-A.-This is the .45 ACP caliber, to which a grip safety was added immediately following World War II. lAtttl'WlfrllNO AMU SilCX FIUNGHN Ht JlHT MIING HN TC, Knife Throwing Techniques of the Ninja. Mossberg did not put serial numbers on most long guns until 1968 (GCA 1968 required them) Parker Brothers Serial Numbers and Grades. IX.-First described as a recoil-operated style of the Mod. These were not produced for the American market and are not readily found in the USA. Any help with this would be very much appreciated. If you try to sell it to a gun shop, you can basically expect jack squat. These black serial number plates were used in the early Generation 2 Glock 19 pistols in the same serial number ranges as their Generation 1 Glock 17 siblings. Answered by a verified Firearms Expert. p | II 111 ' I . 'Liberty Patent' Retolaza Hermanos Eibar, Spain No. Check the sticker label on the side of the . If you advertise "looking for Blastomatic Model 11" with the specific serial number, you might find the current owner. III is distinguished by the addition of the grip safety but otherwise is the same as Mod. Jlllll;|!||'|!llii||.|,l||M[|in!Hltlltlllll, No. Locked Breech as you can see in the photo below, 161mm overall length, 94mm barrel and 8 round magazine. The guns were actually purchased by Les Ouvriers Reunies and from there went to the French gvernment. t fg^Ap, [Tyc I: . Llama records appear to be non existent on any of the guns they sold or they are being held in seclusion. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! A278), order number (i.e. [ : i^! Whatever you buy from them, using those banners, gives us a small commission, which helps us keep these sites alive. Leonhardt H. M. Gering and Co. Arnstadt, Germany No. This gun, manufactured in 1980, is blow back operated. with the year. Work on a new design began in 1931 and culminated in 1932 with a Spanish patent issued on April 12th of that year. i I I i 'i . Parabellum, 9 mm. Mod. VII.-This pistol in 9 mm. The first pistol produced was an exact copy of the Colt Mod. The used value of a LLAMA AUTO 45 pistol has fallen $0.00 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $374.18 . Mod. If you want to become a sponsor and see your banner in the above panel, click here to contact us. This was the first of the Llama pistols made and for some reason was later given the designation of model IV. iflilimtT' ' f ^ I' |1'11 * 1 >J <111 | | 11111 1111. Normally they have soft checkered rubber grips that do not last. The letter for the date code with the asteriskon top is still in use to this very day. I found this pic in my files and I have no idea where it came from. Jul 7, 2015. This handgun sports both a checkered front and back straps as well as walnut wood grips. This is then followed by two more rounds fired at normal pressure levels to determine whether the self loading mechanism is still functioning properly, if it was, then the stamp was applied to the firearm. This gun was made for the American market is the reason it was marked for the 38 Super. iT : ! Website by Hudson. 1252895 gaa llama max i 45 pistol p803458 mos mossberg 500 410 shotgun r733890 mos mossberg 500 12 shotgun e121374 naa north american arms mini master target 22 revolver At the beginning of WWI Gabilondo presented the gun to France for trials and it was accepted in 1915 with orders for 10,000 a month. VII. This is the early Llama legend and then changed to the ones below. The front and rear sight are custom Novak and not original to the gun. This gun can be found with Especial on the right side of the slide as well as one with no marking on the right or only 9mm Automatic. Offered with black or pearl grips in chrome or blue according to the catalog but this one has white grips. serial number mfg manufacturer model caliber wpn type 107888 akk akkar silah sanayi tic field hunter 12 shotgun . X-A.-This is identical to Mod. Earlier issues had a lanyard ring at bottom of left side of the grip frame, but this ring was omitted in later issues and the grip pieces were redesigned. The pistol was in beautiful shape, and I believe untouched. The one I have now may end up being a good shooter but I'm still tinkering with it. OrGABILONDO and Company was located in Vitoria Spain and is a firearms manufacturing company that was founded in 1904. Seriously, you need the serial so on. through the alphabet once, they started with "A*1," then "B*1" models of 1903, 1906, 1910, and 1922. The frame is numbered in the normal manner for a gun made in 98 and you can see where the old serial number and proof marks were removed. I need some help I just bought a llama yes a llama. It was produced from 1936 and was still made in 1953 but does not appear in 1955 factory literature. Llama Pistol Series. Piotti. Exploded view of the IIIA, VIII, .IXA, XIA. caliber, was issued along with Mod. Somewhat later a variant pattern in 9 mm. I am thinking that Llama had a slide or more that were over runs and they simply used them on later guns, but have no way of knowing for sure. Auction: 14505864 LSB#: 170816OQ08 Title: , C&R 9mm Largo (.38 ACP) Make: Llama Gabilondo y Cia S.A. 'F. Llama XVIII - .25 cal called the Executive. 325 7.65 mm. IV. Present day handguns will show a slide marking with either LLAMA CAL. If you do a Google search of Stoeger and read the Wikipedia entry on the company and do the same for Llama you can get a general idea of the DOM. The first pistol produced was an exact copy of the Colt Mod. Hesston 4790 baler specs. On the flat plate on the bottom of the gun, just rear of where the magazine is inserted, look for a letter, set of letters or a word. It was a well made gun with fair tolerances, so parts were interchangeable within its own brand. If this was a coin, it would no doubt raise its value, but I doubt if it did that for this pistol. Colt Officers size with a 7 shot capacity. XI.-This is a 9 mm. This model was produced until about 1954. Gustav Genschow & Co, imported guns from Spain to be sold to Nazi party members and marked their guns with the Geco logo which is a large G with the eco inside it. Very similar to the Astra Victoria from earlier years, While this gun is nothing more than an Ultra Plus it is marked Danton War Model. 'F. I have come to the conclusion that my pistol is a X-A and not a X. I have read that the Model X-A had a grip safety added when production of this model began in 1954. *f j : 11: t i : ' : ' i?. VIII.-This is identical to the Mod. Resource: Spanish Handguns by Gene Gangarosa Astra automatic pistols by Leonardo Antaris The standard directory of proof marks by Gerhard Wirnsberger Official guide to gunmarks by Robert Balderson Llama model IX-A instruction manual.

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